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Originally published in 2009, this post is updated regularly with the latest workarounds for viewing the desktop versions of mobile sites in mobile browsers.
Last update 9-Jul-2013: Added workarounds for Google Calendar, Outlook.com and Techdirt. Updated the Yahoo Mail workaround. Removed the Google Reader workaround because Google Reader has been shut down. Removed Engadget as it no longer has a separate mobile site. Removed Twitter and ESPN workarounds as they don't work any more.
One of the biggest frustrations of using the web with mobile browsers is web sites that force them to use dumbed down mobile versions. I have nothing against mobile sites, obviously. I build them and I write about them here at Wap Review. It's not redirecting mobile browsers to the mobile versions of sites that bothers me. The problem is with mobile sites that lack essential features or content found in the equivalent full web versions and don't offer users an easy way to view the full version. As I've been preaching for years, every mobile site needs to include a Full Version link.
Fortunately many mobile sites now include a link to the full version. For sites that don't it's possible to force the full-web versions of some sites in mobile browsers by using a special URL.
Here's a list of websites where getting to the full version with mobile browsers is harder than it should be along with a workaround. Note that the the ful version may not work well or at all in your mobile browser. But if there's a feature or content you like that's missing from the mobile site, it's worth trying the full version.
Orkut: Has a link to the full version at the bottom of most mobile pages. Or you can go directly to it by using the URL: www.orkut.com/Home.
Yahoo Mail is a special case. us.mc1137.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?ymv=0 loads the full version of Yahoo Mail. The "Basic" version of Yahoo Mail works wells in Opera Mini. However the "New" Yahoo Mail doesn't. Switching back to the basic version also seems to impossible in Opera Mini, you have to find a PC to do it.
- Log into your Yahoo Mail with a PC browser. Click the "Gear" icon at the top right corner of the page and choose options.
- At the bottom of the Options page, under "Advanced - Switch Now" select Basic. Click the Save button.
- Launch your mobile browser and go to us.mc1137.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?ymv=0 and you should be in basic Yahoo Mail..
More full version direct links:
Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/render?tab=mc
Google News: news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn
Wall Street Journal: online.wsj.com/home-page
Hall of Shame: There are a few sites that stubbornly refuse to let Opera Mini users view their full web version.
- ESPN: No full site link and the workaround that worked for years no longer does.
- Picassaweb and Google+: These two sites are exceptions to Google's generally good job of providing links to the "Classic" non-mobile versions.
- Twitter: recently removed the full site links its mobile version and the old workarounds no longer work.
If you find workarounds for other sites that are blocking mobile users from their full-web versions please leave a comment and I'll add your discoveries to this post.
For problem sites try changing your browser's user agent
Web sites are able to tell that you are using a mobile browser by reading the HTTP User-Agent header that browsers send. Some mobile browsers let you change the User-Agent to spoof the site into thinking your are using a desktop browser. Here are the browsers that I know about that allow changing the User Agent and how to do it.
Android browser: On most Android phones you can enable a hidden UAString menu item by typing about:debug in the URL bar and pressing Enter. Nothing will seem to change but if you go to Settings and scroll all the way to the bottom you'll see the UASting option. It lets you choose between an Android, Desktop, iPhone or iPad User-Agent
Opera Mobile on Symbian and Android: A User Agent option in the Advanced Settings menu lets you choose between mobile and desktop versions.
UC Browser: Most versions have a User Agent option in the Settings or Settings > Network menu. In some versions it's labeled "Website Preference".
It looks like the week long Orkut outage for Opera Mini users is over. jbpseudo just left a comment saying it was working again. I just tried and got right into Orkut. This should make a lot of folks happy, especially in Brazil and India where most of Orkut's traffic comes from. As jbpseudo said; thank you, Google, Opera Mini and especially ManneS, the Opera Mini forum moderator and user advocate who I suspect played a big role in escalating this issue to Google's Orkut team.
Update 21-Aug-2008: This issue has been resolved. Orkut is working again for Opera Mini users.
Google's Orkut social network is hugely popular in India. In fact, India ranks second in the number of Orkut members (after Brazil). And many Indians use the Opera Mini browser to visit Orkut. Of all nations, India ranks third in the number of Opera Mini users, after Russia and Indonesia, and Orkut is the second most popular site (after Google) among Indian Opera Mini users.
But all is not well in this relationship. Since Friday, which coincidentally was Indian Independence Day, Orkut has been unavailable to users of the current 4.1 version of Opera Mini. After logging in, instead of seeing the Orkut homepage, Opera Mini users get a page that is blank except for the word "Google". The only workaround is to use a different browser. Other full web mobile browsers, including Opera Mini 3.1, do allow users to login to Orkut. However 4.1 has many more features than the year old 3.1 and most users would prefer not having to switch to a less capable browser just to get into Orkut.
There's a long history of Orkut and Opera Mini incompatibilities. Just two months ago, Orkut started forcing Mini users to a rather limited mobile version of the site, a change that was very unpopular with users and was rolled back after about two weeks. Last November another Orkut change rendered Orkut scrapbooks unavailable to Opera Mini users, a gaffe that also took a couple of weeks to fix.
It almost seems like Orkut doesn't test site changes in Opera Mini. Given the popularity of Opera Mini in Orkut's second biggest market you would think that Google would do a better job of making sure the two are compatible, particularly as the two companies have a partnership to make Google the default Opera Mini search engine.
Unhappy users are complaining on the support forums of both Opera and Google. No one identifying themselves as a Google representative has responded. Opera's tireless forum moderator, Marianne Spilling, "ManneS" has posted on the Opera forum saying "We're aware of it, but it's not our fault... You should rather report back to Google, probably the Orkut team."
Based on past history it looks like users will need to wait a week or two to see this issue resolved.
It looks like Google's Orkut has pulled a Friendster and is forcing Opera Mini users to the mobile version of the site. There's nothing wrong with using browser detection to redirect mobile browsers to a mobile friendly site BUT there needs to be a way to get to the full version if desired. Many of today's mobile browsers including Opera Mini and Mobile, some versions of Netfront and S60 Webkit are capable of loading almost any site on the web. Many users of these browsers prefer the full versions especially when the mobile edition offers only a subset of the site's features as Orkut's does.
On the Opera Mini forum there's been a lot of talk about this issue and a search for a workaround. Opera Mini power user jbpseudo has discovered a way to force Orkut to send the full version to any browser. Enter the following (all on one line):
Or if you are viewing this in a Opera Mini, click this Link.
It seems to work whether you are already logged into your Google account or not. If you're not logged in it prompts you for user id and password, of course.